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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 10:31:07 AM » |
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Finally, CNN reports on news that's actually interesting!  Many thanks for the link. |
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"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy." --George Washington
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 11:57:06 PM » |
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I wouldn't mind trying out those scrum caps for some padded stick training.
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Ars longa vita brevis.
Life is short, the art so long.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 11:35:54 AM » |
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"gets volunteered"  hope nobody loses an eye! |
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 10:19:55 AM » |
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I'm with Jim- that was very interesting!
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"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!"
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WanderingKnight
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 08:58:09 PM » |
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Just fantastic clip! It's always such a pleasure to see people with such passion and spirit for fighting, testing and pushing their limits while also enjoying themselves/ sharing such great camaraderie.Loved the way those kids sparred!
My Giron Escrima teacher was sharing stories on Moro weaponry during a recent session.Interestingly he mentioned that like the Zulu long 'lead' stick, the Moro warriors would be using (in their lead hand) a thin bamboo shaft app 30-40 inches long and grab it in the middle.The only difference being there wouldn't be any shield (like the Zulu one).The shaft itself then will act as a shield primarily to redirect/ angulate blows and pave way for the rear hand attack.
Similar thought across different races and civilizations, simple available means of using whatever is available for survival.
In respect to Guro and my BFK brothers.
/WK
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 02:22:44 PM » |
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Similar experiences beget similar results. Those who fought for real ended up finding the tactics that preserved their lives. Interesting indeed.
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"If you want to learn how to fight, you must practice fighting against someone who is fighting back!"
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 11:06:55 AM » |
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Great video! Truly a universal sport. Capetown is where I spent time as a boy and where I was assigned in 2007. In '07 I actually participated in an intonga match in the Cape Flats township. When I gave it a go, there were no scrum-caps and "hand protection" consisted of crossing your plakkies (flip-flops) across your stick hand. There was no "shield" stick in the fights that I played and observed, just a single five foot or so stick. Maybe this was due to a shortage of proper sticks. Since the Cape is mostly !Xhosa, maybe this has to do with a distinct style compared to the the Zulu double stick style. Needles to say, the fighters were very skilled and not afraid of going at it full speed and could have really hurt me if they had wanted. Many security officers carry sjamboks instead of batons, so being able to swing a thin whippy stick is very useful.
Perhaps Mr. Richardson knows more about this tradition, since I did not have any experiences with proper Zulu style stick fighting. Maybe this latest revival is an adaptation of the Zulu mace inspired style? The way it was explained to me by my !Xhosa friends, the !Xhosa style is inspired by the stick used by a cattle herdsman to drove their cattle as opposed to the mace/shield style of the Zulus.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 03:06:32 PM » |
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Ars longa vita brevis.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 07:59:44 PM » |
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Very nice Justin. Interesting that the !Xhosa style was derived from the stick to herd cattle. I met a few !Xhosa and they did play differently.
I bought a few sjamboks in Johannesburg and I can tell you that they really hurt, even when hit a moderate speed. I was told that it will tear the flesh right from the body. So deceptive.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 02:13:22 AM » |
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I have that exact CS sjambok in my car as my "critter persuader!"
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 11:31:50 PM » |
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heh heh. me too..... "no officer, it's not a weapon. it's for smacking critters............ ask Creighton!" |
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peregrine
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 09:05:42 PM » |
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funny how it is mad out of Kraton
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