Well-Trained Security Guard

[Burton]

I thought you might all find this interesting. Any comments? I have a few that I'll share later. Have at it!

[Burton]

TTT

[vanik]

Very nice block on the first punch that's my favorite
 

[Terry]

I think he showed good technique while striking, but I think his stategy wasn't the best. Once he got the clinch range I think he should have looked to control and strike / finish.

Even wild uncontrolled strikes land and knock people out. You can see a couple of times where he had the aggressors head down and could have worked to a more dominate position or finished...instead of trading shots.

[Kentao5]

At 00:24 he could have applied the hair pull or shirt up over thew head and take the guy down.  The difference between fighting and winning and for Security/LEO's controling the situation ASAP. 

[James McRae]

As noted in the video, he did a good job defensively: his hands were up, which allowed him to avoid the initial haymaker.  Throwing a knee outside of the clinch is not very powerful, though.  If the guard had grabbed a Thai clinch for that knee, he could have pulled his opponent's head down and rocked his hips forward, which would have made that knee a knockout shot.  The same goes for the uppercuts: grabbing the head (particularly the hair) stabilizes the target and allows you to pull the head into the shot for more damage. 

My first JKD instructor, Jason Korol, used to have a "No Loitering" sign up in his school.  He would tell us, "if you are inside the fighting measure, you need to be either (1) hitting your opponent (preferably with a volley of strikes like a straight blast), (2) clinching, or (3) getting out of there!  Loitering inside the fighting measure is not a good idea.  Granted, the guard in the video isn't just sitting there, but he's throwing shots wildly while his opponent is moving all over the place, which means that not a lot is landing.  The guard keeps his hands up while punching, but since he's throwing at the same time as his opponent, he could have been knocked out with a wild punch.  If he had clinched, he could have tied up his opponent so that he couldn't strike and then landed much harder blows (not to mention being able to take his opponent into custody without having to beat him up).

It's hard to tell in the video, but it also looks like the guard isn't getting full extension on his punches.  In the first exchange where he uses the rhino cover to block the right hook and simultaneously throws a right cross, he pulls the shot up short rather than fully extending through his opponent's head.  That might have made the difference between a hard punch and a knockout shot.

Thus, while the guard protects himself from harm very well, he doesn't exactly dish out the punishment.  Trust me: if there had been a brutal knockout, the news network would have shown it (in slowmo). 

[peregrine]

Pepper spray.

The security guard's technique was fairly sound, while the civilian had inferior technique.
Not knowing the security guards available tools and sops I fail to see why he chose to duel when his job is law/rule enforcement.

I vote reinforcements via the radio and depending on ROE- pepper spray.
If during the middle of his pepper spray engagement he was attacked physically to teep. The mma and mt would not have been my choice if my goal was to do my duty as a security guard. If engaged I could see utilizing mt and mma while shouting and pointing for him to leave, if it got into clinch range I'd work for the RN. Technically I think the guard could have sat on his punches more for power... he landed a number of punches with minimal effect. As JKDU methodology the choke is sometimes necessitated due to drugs or other.
Instead of kneeing an opponent in the street maybe he could've posted/sprawled on his head to run around for the RNC.
 
The guard imo chose to stalk the guy in front of all to see like some ufc fighter. I wonder if he lost his job?

[peregrine]

In the street clinch I'd prefer the underhook if I was wearing a gun belt with various tools on it.
Underhook bump to the RNC.

 
The guard was definately trained, though I question some of the various gym habits and training methods. Sitting on his punches, following through. He did remind me of what I expect to encounter if I was engaged in self defense. A large and (sport) trained individual.

Training for the street whether that is slef defens eor on the job should account for numerous other variables than typically done in most mma gyms.

[Terry]

I think he trains hard and wanted to test himself ...risky (for employer and employee) way of seeing how good his boxing skills are.

[James McRae]

Peregrine brings up a good point.  LEOs and security personnel have a different goal in a fight: to detain the suspect with a minimum of injury, not (as with civilians) to hurt him badly enough to incapacitate him and/or prevent him from following when you run away.  I wonder why he didn't use pepper spray or grappling techniques (with an MMA background, he should have had the ability to clinch, takedown, and submit).  As Terry says, it seems like the guard was treating it like a no rules competition.  This kind of thing is a liability nightmare.  All the guard needed was to knock the other guy out and have him fracture his skull on the pavement.  In court, he would have no recourse because he didn't follow a standard force continuum.

It was nice to see the media actually supporting the guard, though.  Typically, we get the standard "we don't condone violence" comments when this kind of story is on the air. 

[Burton]

Great comments.

What I see is 1, he could have put that all to an end if he could move to the clinch and be proficient there. Instead, he stayed in the pocket. That first block was very nice, and he looked sharp, but...
2, he was missing the great majority of his strikes. Nice punching form and knees, but very few actually landed. And as others noted, he could have been KOd staying there in punching range.

So, get to the clinch where there is far less danger, and work that accuracy to be sure a high percentage of your punches are landing.

And yes, pepper spray would have been a good tool.

[Michael]

this topic is very related to New Era Of Street Fighting.

[Burton]

That's right Michael.

[TropicalStorm]

Train like you fight.  Fight like you train.  The guard trained by sparring in the stand up game.  The guard probably didn't train to finish it.  All in all, I'm glad to see one of the good guys dish out some well deserved justice and that he didn't become a statistic.  Probably would have done better if he trained in his equipment so he would instinctively bring his tools in the fight.

[Burton]

Good point TS!