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« on: September 23, 2011, 03:58:38 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIx6l7GEYZY


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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 05:07:21 AM »

The arm grab looks very similar to the gracie defense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEZS_wBFt8&NR=1

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 08:50:02 AM »

I don't understand how someone can stand in front of the camera and pay lip-service about how we need certain countermeasures in place "especially when he comes in with multiple strikes"---even to the point of DEMONSTRATING what that might look like---and then turns around and advocates a tactic that will dissolve the moment it is applied against that kind of pressure.  They're always willing to show the guy coming in at speed with multiple stabs so the viewer can "see" the engergy they're talking about; but then NEVER demonstrate an effective response against that same pressure.

Have your freaking student come at you full force....RIGHT NOW....on camera....and then pull off what you are advocating. 

I just don't get that disconnect.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 01:09:30 PM »

The instructor rejects getting the 2-on-1 grip, but doesn't show the correct way to obtain that grip.  You have to "butterfly" your hands by overlaying the thumb of your right hand over the first metacarpal (corresponding to the index finger) of the left hand and the left thumb under the first metacarpal of the right hand.  This makes a natural "V" shape between the index fingers and thumbs of both hands so that the incoming forearm is directed into the 2-on-1 grip. 

Sierra1 raises a good point: blocking with the forearm and then steering the arm into that "Krav grip" are not very high percentage techniques when the opponent is stabbing repeatedly.  The nice thing about the 2-on-1 grip is that even if you don't manage to grab the hand, you will still stop his forearm from advancing, which means you won't get stabbed and can try to grab the arm again on the next thrust. 

I've had success with the Krav grip when an opponent holds a knife up to you at close range, particularly from behind.  However, it would not be my first choice when facing a "prison shank" attack from the front.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 12:55:54 PM »

interesting how everytime a person is comparing a technique he is defending, with a technique he is attacking, he allways end up being much bettter doing the one he defends, and the attacker being so much dangerous in the one he attacks... LOLLOL

Also the speed and reaction. Once using his one arm shield, he is capable of blocking the arm, but using the two arms, he never can even get those slow limbs away of his body... We can think one of two things: Either this person reaction gets really slow once his brain has to command two arms, instead of one, or he is... desonest! I wonder what to choose...

When I started training MA, back in the early 80's, info was not all around, so you could believe in ignorance, some bad judgment, simply putted, talking about something they didnt knew well enough. But in our days, when someone does what you see in this video, you're assisting intelectual desonesty, marketing strategies, and a very poor way of trying to sell what they do.

I tell you what: I offer myself to experiment. Let me dress a rain coat, give me a sharp knife, and then grab my arm like that (I even let it to get to the situation where he is securing a man's all body and movement, with the strenght of only his left bicep bending) and I will wash all your house's dishes for a week, if you can maintain my arm and avoid some cutting, while missing all your knee shots... Wink
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 10:16:42 PM »

No real resistance leads the martial artist astray. And so many buy into this.

Well said Sierra 1,Jjim, and Luis.
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